Image Credit: Amy Graves/WireImage.com The same day TMZ released footage of Miley Cyrus smoking salvia — a natural herb with hallucinogenic effects — from a bong, the star’s father, Billy Ray Cyrus, tweeted a supposed response to the video: “Sorry guys. I had no idea,” his tweet reads. “Just saw this stuff for the first time myself. I’m so sad. There is much beyond my control right now.” The video, which was taken the week of Miley’s 18th birthday in November, was reportedly stolen or copied from the Disney star’s friend’s camera.
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How about not tweeting at all Billy Ray. I don’t know who’s worse the father or the daughter.
agreed
Id say Billy Ray. Good parenting doesnt produce Miley Circus
Hey, schmucks, do you know how many teenagers experiment with various drugs, regardless of how good their parents are at parenting? We don’t know all the facts, and even if we did, Miley is an adult, and her every action in her private life cannot and should not be traced directly to her upbringing.
@Garry
While I agree that her drug use alone shouldn’t be a reflection of her upbringing, her overall behaviour is. She dresses like someone twice her age, acts like an oversexed twenty-five year-old, and parties way harder than any 18 year-old should. A lot of this stems from the freedom her parents gave her at an age where it was too much for her to handle. This is all bad parenting.
I can’t wait for her first sex tape. I going to go out on a limb and say it will be with a well hung black man.
i think her mom used to be a stripper or something.. she gets it from her mom for sure… thats probably why they got a divorce… her dad wanted her to be nice but her mom wanted her to be slutty just like her…
And what’s even more hypocritical about all this is that there are those of us who remember interviews he and Tish did saying that they work hard at ensuring Miley will not become another statistic in Disney Girls Gone Wild saga a la Britney & Linsay. Oops, I guess you’re not the greatest parent after all either Billy Ray. P.S. Everyone should youtube the Mad TV skit of Hannah Montana making out with Amy Winehose and sniffing cocaine off a hooker’s butt, at a P. Diddy party. One has to wonder how far off an actual video of that being released is.
guys leave her alone, she is hot
Are you smoking that salvia, too?
does anyone really believe its salvia? come on now, she’s in Cali, the land of legal pot…
I don’t know why you are so quick to judge. Most teenagers experiment, and besides Miley is now an adult. She can do whatever she wants. Her father has no business in it.
Nude pics, pot…puh-lease! Stop giving free passes to this girl.
Most teenagers experiment but most of them are not famous and don’t make money from they public image.
Would you smoke pot or salvia or whatever at your place of work? I don’t think so.
I give Miley one year before she shaves her head. At least Britney had two reasons to get back up: her kids.
@ Miss Talk – oh no, pot! That’s the worst! Maybe I wouldn’t smoke it at work, but would you have a glass of wine at work? Cause that would be very unprofessional where I work. Doesn’t make it a sin to do it on your own time.
You don’t QUIT being a parent when your kids are 18, so parents DO have BUSINESS…. but she was raised different than most our kids… KIDS don’t LISTEN, I didn’t, my daughter didnt and we’re ok. BECAUSE my parents and my DAUGHTERS mother, HAD her business…. she still did what she did. Is how kids are. Ok, off MY “soapbox” now the rest of you SUPERIOR PEOPLE, get off YOURS. She’s legal… but parents are always parents.
Ugly Miley sure knows how to grab on and suck real hard. Vive la Quebec!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Miley. Parenting is a crapshoot sometimes. The life of a child is a mix of parenting and the kid’s personality and environment.
well, he’s damned if he responds and damned if he keeps quiet. he cant win in this situation. i honestly dont see the big deal, she’s 18! arent kids her age supposed to be experimenting with drugs, sex and life?
i know in california for some this is no big deal but for people with families with drug problems it is especialy parents and she’s got younger fans who don’t understand what she’s doing and her show still on the air and the dea clasifies this drug as a drug of concern so this thing maybe like coke or marijuana i don’t know if some of you explain it to me maybe users if you are no offense.
Um, Javi… I tried reading your post 3 times and I couldn’t understand half the things you wrote. Could it be YOU’RE the one with the drug problem?
Breaking the law should be a big deal everywhere. I’ve lived in CA my whole life, and trust me, it’s still stupid.
What law did she break?
@bethanymae, She didn’t break any law. She was smoking salvia, which is legal in CA. Frankly, she needs to empty her entourage of the friend who had the video “stolen”.
@WhitneyD Actually Salvia is illegal. It’s been restricted since 2008.
No it’s legal. It is only illegal in a few states: Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, and Virginia. In California, it is illegal to sell to minors, but not illegal for them to possess. Regardless, she isn’t a minor and wasn’t breaking any laws. Not where she falls in the public court of opinion is another story…
@Bethanymae & Salvia: Did either of you read the article? Salvia is legal in California. She is an adult and she didn’t break any laws. Her biggest mistake here seems to be her lousy taste in friends. (I heard this morning that the footage was deliberately leaked by a ‘friend’.)
@Cheeks – 18 states is slightly more than a ‘few’, LOL.
Are people really that dumb and actually believe that was Salvia??? Its just the most conveinet excuse that her PR reps came up with to queit the storm… I mean could it be more obvious, i know 18 year olds who could goto the store and by salvia but will get real pot everytime… its about as easy to get as salvia plus the illegalness of the drug makes it sexier… plus, smoking weed is much better than smoking salvia, could you imagine if you showed up at a party… youd look like Mclovin… who smokes salvia, it just a convenient PR tatic
Miley was probably just relaxing. Give her a break. Lots of pressure on her to support her no-talent father.
How about relaxing in a way that sets a good example for the countless of fans watching her every mood? By the looks of the video she gave straight into peer pressure. The next time some pressures a Miley fan into doing drugs the poor minded simpleton is going to think “Rich and famous hannah montana did it, why shouldn’t I?” Perfect.
I think it’s a huge double standard that Miley Cyrus can be chastised for smoking from a bong, be it weed or salvia, but stars like Kid Cudi and the Kings of Leon have talked openly about their drug use in interviews and are glorified for it. I understand the fanbase is slightly different, but if it’s wrong for one person, it should be wrong for everyone… or not a big deal for everyone (preferably).
@Menchy.
“slightly” different fan base??
@Menchy
You have a point but then again, the “wholesome image” is what Miley, her father, whomever, sold preteens on. When you see Kid Cudi, Kings of Leon, Snoop, you already know what you’re getting into with those artists. They are brands and Miley Cyrus sold her brand as being wholesome. She’s got to live with that one.
Menchy,
That’s a good point. They have different fanbases but it’s shocking when one person is applauded and glorified for drugs and others are chewed out. If you watch any show with a live audience such as Conan, the mention of drugs is always applauded stupidly.
That’s because Conan veiwers are stupid 16-year-olds who think drugs are cool or college aged students to do drugs or think that drugs are cool. I agree that Miley was doing the whole wholesome Disney thing, and now she has to live with anyone calling her out everytime she does something that is’ent appropriate.
i’m SO waitign for this girl to whore out. like a little trasshy time bomb just waiting to pop.
Good to know you’re spending your own time so productively.
Waiting? She already did!
She’ll be appearing topless on a beach, in a photo from a cam, in a movie, or in Playboy within 2 years…probably sooner.
She can’t be tamed.
@silv :HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
She made a huge fool out of herself in that video. To a normal person it would be embarrassing.
I agree. If that were me in the video, I would be totally embarassed! She looks like a complete idiot.
I have an 18 year old. He lives at home (as Miley should), goes to school every day (as Miley should), and has a curfew (as Miley should). Yea, he gets into some trouble for driving too fast, swearing in front of his grandmother, and occasionally talks back to me and his dad. When this happens, he is disciplined. I know where he’s at when he goes out and who he’s with. I call that parenting Billy Ray. I suggest you try it.
Well…Billy Ray did make a comment about it on Twitter.
I’m not knocking Twitter. But his response about this should not be on Twitter.
He shouldn’t have to respond in public at all.
Yeah, kids never do anything behind their parents back. Everybody thinks their kids are angels.
I’m sure your son does some things that you have no idea about. So just calm down the judgement a little.
I have no doubt my son does things that I don’t know about. I’d be stupid to think he’s an angel at all times (and I know he’s not). But I also know that I don’t pimp my son out and let him rule the roost. He has rules because he is still a CHILD. Yes, in the eyes of the law he’s an adult, but he is still in high school (and Miley should be a senior as well based on her birthday). These kids need discipline and they need structure and RULES! I’ve always found Miley’s lack of age appropriateness to be completely disgusting and frankly I’m very glad I do not have a daughter that would want to emulate her in any way.
Damn, Jenn. You gonna give him access to his balls when he turns 21, or are you gonna just hand ‘em directly over to his wife some day?
Jenn, pimping your son out is now in vogue, just ask Cecil Newton.
Trust me, his balls are his and his alone. But those balls better be back in my house by 10 p.m. on school nights and midnight on weekends.
You go, girl.
Aw mom, stop it. You’re embarrassing me.
GOOD! Then I’m doing my job. We are not meant to be our kids’ friends. We are meant to parent them, show them right from wrong, discipline them and love and support them when they screw up. Yep, Miley screwed up. But she isn’t receiving any guidance and zero parenting.
Hey Jenn, I seem to agree with you on many of these boards. I agree with you again, kids will be people, but at the end of the day if you don’t set limits, they don’t learn responsibility and their behavior becomes somewhat your fault as a parent. Sure, Miley is 18 and partying, etc, but she is WHO she is, and should be more careful, and should have even more people looking after her, since her maturity is probably skewed at this point. It’s sad no one is doing so, and sad her dad feels the need to tweet instead of dealing with the issue. He shouldn’t care about the public’s thoughts, but of his daughter. Therein lies the crux of the problem.
Lol, poor kid
Jenn, you’re son is worse than Miley. You openly admit he regularly speeds, which is a killer. At least Miley smoking isnt endangering anyone other than herself, but your son puts other lives at risk on the road. Good parenting? Hardly.
Are you freaking serious? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
You really are an idiot then if you think it’s a joke. I would much rather Billy Ray be my parent than you.
Jenn’s son isn’t the idol of millions of teenage girls.
Oh really? He isnt? In that case it’s okay for him to do it then.
so when do the rest of you think MCS will come out with a LEAVE MILEY ALONE video featuring him in lots of guyliner, weeping uncontrollably? I am putting my money on two yeas. Thas how long it will take sweet lil hannah montana to be hated for her photos of pantiless partying and coke on her nose.
That’s really funny and all, but I hate everything about Miley Cyrus, I was just pointing out how stupid Jenn’s righteousness was.
I don’t get blaming it all on Billy Ray. Miley has been pretty independent for a while now. More then anyone else, she should be blamed for her own behavior. And from what I’ve seen, her mother is the worse influence of the two.
My parents would have been embarrassed to have any of their sons or daughters still living off of them like kids at 18…
You try living by yourself at 18 in this economy. It’s not practical.
In different cultures it’s normal to stay with parents and pool money together until the kids get married.
@ @ maori
I left home in 2004, went to college, worked my way through, and am now taking out loans to go to grad school. All of my five younger siblings have taken similar paths. It’s not the easiest path for young adults (who doesn’t like having their bills paid for them?), but it’s definitely practical. Those of my family who stayed home after coming of age are treated like adults (including the expectation that they share in household expenses and upkeep.) It’s more of the “pool money together” that you mentioned than Jen’s scenario where she still considers her son a child and treats him accordingly.
I don’t mean to say that staying involved in your family or even living with them after puberty is shameful, but the idea of an 18 year old being treated like a “CHILD”, as Jenn put it, is pretty sad.
As far as Ms. Cyrus goes, she’s not all that young anymore. She’s now a bongsmoking, bikini-baring adult, and parents need to realize that and stop expecting her to be the same character that Disney invented in her childhood.
Bravo!
The fact that you consistently reprimand your son after he talks back to you and his father, swears in front of his grandmother, and speeds (that you know of) means that your reprimand doesn’t mean anything. And you don’t know what he does behind your back.
I know some people will see this and think, “Oh my God, what is this salvia stuff!?” But let’s get a little perspective; this is how teenagers talk and act when they hang out, no evil psychedelic herbs needed.
Being a teenager myself, I can say that this is not how all teenagers act or talk when they’re hanging out. Some people just make dumb decisions.
I second that. Whenever my friends and I hang out, we watch movies and talk about school and life. We don’t say or do anything like what she did in the video.
Being a teenager myself, I can say this that this does happen… a lot. Experimentation with drugs is normal behavior for adolescents.
Brendan, I think it is dangerous to say that teen drug experimentation is ‘normal.’ A better word would be ‘common.’
I agree with Alice and Casey. I am a teenager and although stuff like what Miley does is common, not all teenagers do it. So I don’t think people should be using the “Oh all teenagers do that” excuse.
I’m a teen and I don’t experiment with drugs, because I know to take care of myself, and not all teens are reckless criminals. Stop using that excuse.
Same here! I’m a teenager and I’ve never smoked anything or drank. And neither do any of my friends. People need to realize that just because someone’s a teen doesn’t mean all they do is smoke and drink. There are a lot of us that are rational enough not to live risky lives. As for Miley: she doesn’t have any younger fans anymore, all of her fans have grown up. Little kids today are obsessed with Bieber. If she wants to have a good time who cares? she can definitely afford it, it’s not like she ever has to work again, she has more money than God!
I’m not actually a teen, but I was not too long ago (at all), and I never drank or did any sort of drugs. yes a lot of my friends did stuff like that (I was/am in a rock band for Christ’s sake, I’ve seen a lot of drugs in my time), but they just ended up miserable: getting airlifted to the hospital for alcohol poisoning, getting DUIs, having causual sex with incredibly ugly people because they were so wasted hahaha. Sure its common, my girlfriend and I were pretty much the only people at my high school that didn’t drink, but what do ya know? We ended up much happier than all of them.
All kids her age do stupid stuff. Billy Ray should be most concerned about her so-called friends posting embarassing videos of his kid. Someone was trying to make a buck. Not a good friend!
Actually, not all kids do stupid things. Many do, but there are also quite a few who think before they act and don’t have any desire to “experiment.” They just aren’t heard about as often.
When I read this post, I think I inverted a lung laughing so hard!
I was waiting for something like this. Her last release and subsequent tour was just a tease. She was able to raunch it up so fast… something’s up.
It just doesn’t make sense to me why anyone would admit to the world that they’re a terrible parent? Even someone who thinks he is way more famous than he really is, like Billy Ray.
How do you know he’s a terrible parent? You blame him for Miley’s (supposed) drug use, so why not credit him for her becoming a popular teen music/TV star and multi-millionaire before she even reached the age of 18?
In my eyes letting your teen become a multi-millionare and teen TV star IS bad parenting.
Hmmm… how do you know he’s a bad parent? Ummmm when a father watches his 16 year old daughter perform what is essentially a pole dance in a skanky outfit while smiling proudly… oh and she’s doing all this on top of a very child-like ice cream cart. That whole concept is plain perverted and any father that has no problems with that is lacking basic parenting skills. While I will be the first one to admit that most teenage girls go through a faze that involves dressing provocatively – their parents are supposed to be the ones not letting them out of the house dressed that way and teaching them to seek and value personality, intellect and self-respect NOT making excuses for them. There was quite a few times my mom wouldn’t let me leave the house until I changed because I was dressed in a way that invited negative sexual attention (ie. I looked like a slut).
Jaden Smith (who is, for the record, seven years younger than Miley), showed his abs during an interview with one of those late night goons and talked about how great of a kisser he was. Justin Bieber (also underage, and younger than Miley) recently did a shoot that suggested an illicit relationship between himself and Kim Kardashian a la The Graduate. Where was the moral outrage for this? I agree that kids should learn to have healthy relationships with consensual sexuality, but letting boys run wild and blaming it all on women (who we so lovingly call ‘sluts’) is completely, thoroughly, irredeemably reprehensible.
And yeah, you shouldn’t leave the house nude, but did your mother at least teach you that if you receive “unwanted sexual attention,” that’s, you know, sexual harassment and it isn’t your fault?? Saying “If you didn’t want me to talk about your body you shouldn’t display it” is like saying “If you didn’t want me to shoot you you shouldn’t have left the house.” There’s not an actual causal relationship except one that we’ve agreed is culturally acceptable. If something is immoral, like sexual harassment or the degradation of women (which everyone on this board seems to care so much about, but only when it’s the woman’s fault), then it’s immoral no matter what. it’s never “okay” or invited. Stop blaming the victim, and STOP calling women “sluts,” even if you are a woman.
First of all, I never called Miley a slut, I had issue with her father not taking a stand against the idea of his 16 year old daughter doing her best stripper impression on national tv. As for Jayden Smith and Justin Bieber, I’m not okay with all you stated just because they are guys – I didn’t mention it cause I had no idea that they said/did those things cause I don’t give 2 sh*ts about what either of them do, let alone follow their antics on tv, etc. I think its ridiculous that millions of adults think it’s okay and funny for any of these teens, both female and male, to act in overtly sexual manners that are more appropriate for 20 year olds. And again I never said it was just Miley’s fault she was receiving all this sexual attention and/or harassment, I was adressing the fact that parents should do more than just shrug their shoulders when their kids try to push the limits to the extreme. And yeah my mom taught me about being treated with respect regardless of how you present yourself, but that being said- I learned over time (and growing up) that while dressing or acting provocatively does not mean you’re asking for or deserve sexual harassment I think it does speak volumes of how you view yourself, your self esteem and how you want to be perceived by others and what kind of attention you want to get. There are tons of ways to be sexy in both dress and actions without being trashy or obvious – my original point was that Miley’s parents should be teaching her that instead of letting their teenage daughter, who is just exploring her sexuality like most girls her age, and studio execs, who are capitalizing on her sexuality (wrong & creepy), make all her decisions in the name of breaking free of her good girl image.
First of all, I never called Miley a slut, I had issue with her father not taking a stand against the idea of his 16 year old daughter doing her best stripper impression on national tv. As for Jayden Smith and Justin Bieber, I’m not okay with all you stated just because they are guys – I didn’t mention it cause I had no idea that they said/did those things cause I don’t give 2 sh*ts about what either of them do, let alone follow their antics on tv, etc. I think its ridiculous that millions of adults think it’s okay and funny for any of these teens, both female and male, to act in overtly sexual manners that are more appropriate for 20 year olds. And again I never said it was just Miley’s fault she was receiving all this sexual attention and/or harassment, I was adressing the fact that parents should do more than just shrug their shoulders when their kids try to push the limits to the extreme. And yeah my mom taught me about being treated with respect regardless of how you present yourself, but that being said- I learned over time (and growing up) that while dressing or acting provocatively does not mean you’re asking for or deserve sexual harassment I think it does speak volumes of how you view yourself, your self esteem and how you want to be perceived by others and what kind of attention you want to get. There are tons of ways to be sexy in both dress and actions without being trashy or obvious – my original point was that Miley’s parents should be teaching her that instead of letting their teenage daughter, who is just exploring her sexuality like most girls her age, and studio execs, who are capitalizing on her sexuality (wrong & creepy), make all her decisions in the name of breaking free of her good girl image.
Billy, you are the adult. Miley is still the child (even if she is 18). You control the situation as the parent. What is wrong with you? Did you get taken in by Miley’s “sweet girl” act? Do you not see that she is going down the exact same path as Lindsey Lohan? You are the one who needs to get help first–and right now! Only if you and your wife get help will you be in a position to help your daughter. If not, you’ll end up like Lindsey, her dad, and her mom.
Actually you said it yourself. She’s 18. Legally she’s an adult.
She may legally be an adult, but at that age kids still need boundaries. If they don’t get them from their parents, they’ll keep pushing until they find them. Miley hasn’t been given clear boundaries for quite some time. In the media, her parents have consistently defended her choices and her behavior, and in some cases perpetuated it. Example: at 16 she dated a 21 year old who lived with them. What is that?? Even with a child who is at least 18, parents can still have an affect on behavior. That’s what I’m talking about. Mom and Dad have some learnin’ to do.
She’s 18, stop calling her a child. She’s old enough to go join the military and kill people.
Look at all the hypocrites posting. I guess they forget what it’s like to be 18.
Yes, and what about the millions of teenagers away at college, whom their parents have no choice but to trust to be responsible on their own, away from home. Are those parents also to blame if their kids do stupid things while not under their immediate supervision? If so, then that adds up to millions of “irresponsible” parents all across the country. Geez, people, use a little more logic and a little less judgement.
I’m assuming you’re 18 or around there based on your comment. I agree that no one is perfect, that kids are going to make mistakes regardless of how great or bad their upbringing was, and also that people need to be a little less judgmental in general.
BUT, logically speaking, none of these millions of teenagers have represented themselves as a certain persona for mass consumption on a global level to millions of kids for financial gain. Years ago the decision was made by Miss. Cyrus, her parents, her agent and the Disney execs to create the image of a wholesome, goofy, good kid that would be a good role model for millions of girls to emulate. Make no mistake, this was a conscience marketing decision made purely for financial gain cloaked in good intentions. They were, undeniably, immensely successful – Miley became a superstar, but superstars want to do what they want to do and no one, apparently not even their parents, can tell them no (who would want to upset the cash cow?) Eventually you get a 16 year old performing essentially a striptease on a pole on top of an ice cream cart while her father watches on proudly while calling her an ‘artist’… and you see this ‘role model’ and her friends in, what only can be described as racially offensive poses in pictures and the adults around her make excuses for her behavior… and she gets into clubs that regular teens her age would never be allowed into by either the owners, their parents or the law and is allowed to drink…
My point is: this girl has not known discipline, boundaries or consequences since she was a child. The adults around her give into her every whim because they want to continue to whore her out for their own greed, they all have been irresponsible and failed her in every way- her parents and the Disney corporation. By labeling someone so young they have set her up to inevitably fail because no one is the same person they were when they were 12 and no one is without mistakes. They allowed her to buy into her own hype and her sense of reality and consequences has suffered as a result – look at Brittney and Lindsay, have either of them ever grown out of it? Miley is headed in the same direction.
Beans, well said.
@beans You have pretty much summed up the situation to a ‘t’, and I thank for that. I don’t look forward to the other headlines inevitably coming down the pike on this one, though – I’ve had my fill with all of Britney’s and Lindsay’s. **sigh**
I can’t say I feel bad for Miley’s parents, but I do feel sad for her and other young women in her position – the money and fame are enticing, but it’s destruction all wrapped up with a shiny red bow.
@Rolo Tomasi You have a point but you don’t understand, Miley Cyrus isn’t your average teenager who’s just turned 18. She’s “famous” and famous to little girls and teenagers everywhere. So when a 14 years old girl sees this, or the way Miley dresses it’s just plain bad role modeling. It’s a different world when you’re famous you can’t just say oh well I’m legal now so I can do anything I want. You gotta keep in mind that you’re always on candid cam and you’re a role model for a lot of young girls.
Judging by Miley’s past behavior, her parents never placed many restrictions on her. I don’t know why Billy Ray is acting surprised now. When you let your underage daughter party and date men in their twenties she may not end up making the best decisions. Oh, and let’s be real, there was something stronger than salvia in that bong.
SO hope this makes for a classic “Miley Show” on SNL this Sat. The Frosted Flakes box has ot make a cameo.
Dear Miley,
Stop doing stupid stuff.